So are you saying anyone who supports Brexit doesn’t belong here?
As for only 37% of the electorate voting leave,52% of those who voted in the referendum voted for Brexit.
No Brexit Plan ?
Brexit has not happened yet, but it will!
As for a Brexit Plan, don’t you mean post-Brexit plan - the plan I will be unfolding over the next few months on this forum or elsewhere if necessary but you can rest assured it is coming?
Talking of Plans -where is your let’s stay in the EU plan?
The single market as has been explained more than once - is NOT the EU.If you want a strategy that differentiates you Then you should be promoting a United Europe not the EU, the former is what the EU was supposed to be.
The Lib-dems and others are promoting continued EU expansion…
I can’t believe SomethingElse has gotten this far with no strategy, no overall goal and no USP.
Whether you agree with the rest of my words , trust me on one thing, the EU right or wrong in not a unique selling point.
I was hoping i could contribute something constructive to SomethingElse, as despite our differences regarding the EU, I had hoped to have been able to find some common ground with people of common goals, Was I wrong? Are you really serious about wanting to create real and meaningful change , because I still can’t see any focus here.
How can you have a strategy without focus?
How can you achieve goals without a target market?
You are presuming that people will support your desire to stay in the EU, but that is an interpretation of events, not a product of research.If you are wrong then you get nothing.
On the other hand if you promote Devolution within Europe you will at least get the people who originally voted against greater European Union ,only to be callously ignored, on your side.
A United Europe would be composed of Devolved National Governments and ran along the lines of a quorum not ruled by an unwanted and Ineffective European Partliament that is continually overruled by the non-elected European Commision, makes more sense to me and is more understood by the people than a European Parliament playing second fiddle to a comission of beurocrats.
I’m not sure I understand what is going on here - do you actually want other peoples input or not?
It certainly seems that you don’t.
Promoting Devolution within Europe is what the people’s of Europe want., or don’t you understand why the French rejected the EU twice in two referendums as did some other Nations before Brussels decided not to have anymore, and then ignored all the referendum results they didn’t like and then pushed forced integration of the EU anyway?
You did say you wanted a system that serves the people not Politicians yet you are ignoring the referendum results of the Nations that rejected closer union and therefore the people too. As for no-one voting to leave the " single market ", that option was not on the ballot paper so you can’t know if they would have voted to leave or not.
It is like Alex Salmond and David Cameron refusing to give the Scots the option of Devo -max on their referendunm paper,- which is what they really wanted in the first place.How do I know that?
I am a Scot, that is how!
Independence was Sturgeon and Salmond’s dream , not the Scots. There is a lot more common ground between the Independence voters and the remain voters than you realize but you can’t see the woods for the trees, because you put it all down to xenophobia and racism.
In reality it is about self-empowerment, and so too was France’s rejection of closer political union in their referendums.
If the EU is supported by the people to the extent you obviously believe why did the EU refuse to give all the affected nations an equal say in their own referendums?
Could it be that all they wanted was power over the people and not to serve them?
Devo-max is what the people want ,and Devolution within Europe should be your strategy, but what would I know, I am just an individual of no consequence - just like every other citizen of the UK, France,Germany, etc, just a common,insignificant voter.
p.s. I notice you have a like button but where is the dislike ?